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c/orforglipron·posted 8 months ago by u/freya_marchand

small win: non-peptide stopped being a problem at week 82

Discussion Long Haul ×7

small win: non-peptide stopped being a problem at week 82. This is a description of what happened to me and not a plan for anybody else.

What is actually known, and what is being assumed.

Known: it is a small-molecule GLP-1 receptor agonist, dosed daily, with clinical programmes reporting in both obesity and type 2 diabetes. Its tolerability profile broadly resembles the class in the data published so far.

Assumed, frequently and confidently: that milligram comparisons with injectables mean something, that adherence is straightforwardly better because it is a tablet, that peptide purity discussions transfer to it. None of those hold. And nothing containing this compound is approved anywhere, which makes research-use-only material exactly that — not approved for human use.

Why "oral" is doing two completely different jobs in the sentences people write here.

Oral semaglutide is a peptide co-formulated with an absorption enhancer, which is why it comes with food and water timing requirements. This compound is a non-peptide small molecule that activates the same receptor, formulated as an ordinary tablet.

The practical consequences differ enormously: no timing constraints, a conventional manufacturing route, different stability behaviour, and a different analytical problem for anybody trying to verify identity or purity. Whenever a thread here compares the two, check which sense of "oral" each half is using.

If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something. Alone it is an anecdote.

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u/salma_almeida101 points·8 months ago

Because it is not a peptide, it is not subject to the same degradation pathways, does not require the absorption enhancers used for oral peptides, and can be formulated as a conventional tablet.

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u/ayesha_erdogan-34 points·8 months ago

Read both programme names carefully after mixing them up in a comment and being politely corrected.

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u/freya_marchandOP1 point·8 months ago

Phase 2 or phase 3?

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u/freya_marchandOP1 point·8 months ago

What did the tolerability table look like at that dose?

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u/yannick_salinas68 points·8 months ago

the tolerability profile reads broadly similar to the class

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u/piotr_bruun56 points·8 months ago

Analytically this is a small-molecule identity and purity problem, not a peptide one. The methods, the impurity classes and the reference standards are all different.

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u/laila_delgado17 points·8 months ago

a non-peptide agonist does not degrade the way a peptide does

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u/joaquin_trevino6 points·8 months ago

the boards keep comparing it to injectables at matched doses, which is meaningless

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