[Discussion] non-peptide agonism is a genuinely different engineering problem
Long-ish post, sorry. tl;dr at the bottom.
I have been tracking orforglipron against ApoB for 7 weeks because I could not find anyone who had. The correlation is weaker than I expected, which is itself mildly interesting given how confidently people link the two in here.
Caveats up front: one person, one lab, one assay, no control, and I changed my training in the middle of it, which was stupid.
tl;dr: probably real, definitely smaller than the threads imply, and not worth reorganising your week around.
best — the order this archive was captured in
oral non-peptide agonist is ACHIEVE, no food restrictions
This is correct. ATTAIN data is phase 22.
Small correction: the trial was 11 weeks, not 12. Does not change your point but people will quote it.
The confident tone is doing a lot of work that the evidence is not.