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c/meta·posted 2 years ago by u/wanjiru_osei

why does nobody talk about disclosure

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Trying to get a straight answer on this: why does nobody talk about disclosure.

Argued against the strict evidence rule for a year. Then read a supplier thread on another site and stopped arguing.

Read the ranking formula out of scepticism and reproduced the ordering in a spreadsheet. It does what it says.

Had a post removed, went to modmail, got a specific explanation and disagreed with it politely. It stayed removed and I understood why.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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7 in this archive, depth 3

best — the order this archive was captured in

u/blunt_coldbox294 points·2 years ago

How a rule actually changes here, since people assume it is arbitrary.

Somebody posts a proposal with replacement wording — not a complaint, actual text. It gets argued about, usually for a week or two. If it survives, it goes in with whatever amendments came out of the argument, and the change is announced with the reasoning attached.

The reason wording is required is that it is the only thing that can be evaluated. "The vendor evidence rules are too strict" cannot be adopted, rejected or amended. A proposed sentence can. Several rules on this site started as a comment in a thread like this one, which is the strongest argument for the process.

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u/discount_math_dm3 points·2 years ago·edited

How a rule actually changes here, since people assume it is arbitrary.

Disagreeing with this bit: making individual cases public by default is worse for the person being moderated.

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u/lucia_balogun-24 points·2 years ago

Have you taken this to modmail first?

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u/emeka_chowdhury3 points·2 years ago

This. Modmail first is not bureaucracy; it stops individual cases turning into a public pile-on.

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u/dizzy_on_standing3 points·2 years ago

Proposed a rule change here with actual wording and it was adopted. That is the process working and it is not fast.

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u/farid_jansen3 points·2 years ago

Push back: the ranking is not hiding anything. The formula is published and you can reproduce the ordering.

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u/dario_ibarra4 points·2 years ago·edited

Complained about a rule without proposing anything and was politely pointed at this page. Fair.

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