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c/meta·posted 2 years ago by u/hamza_weiss

[Discussion] the rules advice in here is 2 years out of date

Discussion Well Actually ×4 Slow Clap ×2

Posting this as a discussion rather than a claim: the rules advice in here is 2 years out of date.

To save the first four comments: 2 years.

How a rule actually changes here, since people assume it is arbitrary.

Somebody posts a proposal with replacement wording — not a complaint, actual text. It gets argued about, usually for a week or two. If it survives, it goes in with whatever amendments came out of the argument, and the change is announced with the reasoning attached.

The reason wording is required is that it is the only thing that can be evaluated. "The vendor evidence rules are too strict" cannot be adopted, rejected or amended. A proposed sentence can. Several rules on this site started as a comment in a thread like this one, which is the strongest argument for the process.

Checked the sponsor disclosure because I assumed it would be vague. It was extremely specific and slightly boring.

Not medical advice, obviously, and nothing here is approved for human use. One person with a spreadsheet.

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best — the order this archive was captured in

u/dose_creep_dan149 points·2 years ago

Funding and links, in full, because the question deserves a straight answer.

Sponsor units are labelled as sponsored. Each vendor source page carries one outbound link to that supplier’s own storefront, marked nofollow and sponsored, so you can read their account of themselves against the record on the page. Nothing is received for those links, no supplier pays for a directory position, and no rating is for sale.

No referral or affiliate links are permitted anywhere on the site, from anybody, including in the pricing threads where the temptation is highest. That rule is the reason those threads are worth reading, and it is enforced without exception. The full version of all of this is on the about page and it is deliberately boring.

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u/rekha_mwangi93 points·2 years ago

Had a post removed, went to modmail, got a specific explanation and disagreed with it politely. It stayed removed and I understood why.

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u/enzo_danquah20 points·2 years ago

Cosigning on the no-links rule. It is the only reason the pricing threads are trustworthy.

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u/cloudy_vial_carol6 points·2 years ago

no referral links, no affiliate links, not once

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u/malin_petrescu21 points·2 years ago·edited

Argued against the strict evidence rule for a year. Then read a supplier thread on another site and stopped arguing.

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u/hassan_castellanos145 points·2 years ago

Sorted by controversial for a week and found four of the best threads I have read here.

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u/mod_ambulatoryadmin90 points·2 years ago

Careful — that would make individual moderation cases public by default, which is worse for the person complaining.

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts-12 points·2 years ago

Proposed a rule change here with actual wording and it was adopted. That is the process working and it is not fast.

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u/cloudy_vial_carol-14 points·2 years ago

Edited a wiki page for the first time and nothing bad happened, which is apparently the point.

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u/enzo_petrescu-17 points·2 years ago

ranked feeds mean the top comment is not the best answer

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u/tomas_lundgren1 point·2 years ago

Complained about a rule without proposing anything and was politely pointed at this page. Fair.

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u/hamza_weiss1 point·2 years ago

Complained about a rule without proposing anything and was politely pointed at this page.

Adding the practical note — the formula is published and you can reproduce the ordering yourself.

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u/saskia_mwangi1 point·2 years ago

a rule you cannot inspect is just a preference

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u/camila_marchand67 points·2 years ago

Read the ranking formula out of scepticism and reproduced the ordering in a spreadsheet. It does what it says.

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u/discount_math_dm21 points·2 years ago

sort by controversial occasionally, it is worth it

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts22 points·2 years ago

sponsor disclosure is on the about page in full

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u/soren_osei29 points·2 years ago

removals get explained publicly where the rule allows it

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u/yannick_petrov37 points·2 years ago

the ranking formula is published, go and read it

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u/ismael_varga33 points·2 years ago

this place sells nothing and takes nothing from any supplier

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u/hub_opssite staff25 points·2 years ago

Moderation of individual cases happens in modmail rather than in threads, because a public discussion of one person’s removal is worse for that person than a private one.

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