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c/meta·posted 2 years ago by u/enzo_danquah

disclosure — 16 things I got wrong before I got it right

Meta Receipts ×5 Long Haul ×3

Posting this as a discussion rather than a claim: disclosure — 16 things I got wrong before I got it right.

Submissions older than a year are archived: readable, linkable, and closed to new comments. That keeps a three-year-old thread from being reopened with a reply nobody will see in context.

Vendor source pages carry an outbound link to the supplier’s own storefront, marked nofollow and sponsored, disclosed on the page and again on the funding page. Nothing is received for it.

The evidence standard on the vendor boards requires a document, a date or a named service behind any claim about a supplier. It is what makes those threads worth reading years later.

Happy to answer the boring questions. Those are usually the ones worth asking.

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30 in this archive, depth 5

best — the order this archive was captured in

u/old_account_2023267 points·2 years ago·edited

A rule-change proposal needs replacement wording because that is what can be evaluated. Without it there is nothing to compare against the current text.

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u/blunt_coldbox_2024114 points·2 years ago

Correction: that rule applies to the vendor boards specifically, not site-wide. The wording is on the rules page.

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u/emil_wojcik78 points·2 years ago

Not convinced by the proposal as worded. It would remove the specific thing that makes the vendor board usable.

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u/anders_karlsen158 points·2 years ago

no referral links, no affiliate links, not once

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u/dizzy_on_standing38 points·2 years ago

no referral links, no affiliate links, not once

anders_karlsen is right that the strict evidence rule is the asset, not the friction.

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u/enzo_danquahOP21 points·2 years ago

Read the ranking formula out of scepticism and reproduced the ordering in a spreadsheet. It does what it says.

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u/enzo_danquahOP74 points·2 years ago

Sorted by controversial for a week and found four of the best threads I have read here.

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u/RetaAndRegret2223 points·2 years ago

Cosigning on the no-links rule. It is the only reason the pricing threads are trustworthy.

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u/hub_opssite staff166 points·2 years ago

Feed position is a function of early votes and time. That structurally favours agreeable early answers over correct late ones, which is why sorting by controversial occasionally is worth the effort.

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u/enzo_danquahOP74 points·2 years ago

Had a post removed, went to modmail, got a specific explanation and disagreed with it politely. It stayed removed and I understood why.

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts93 points·2 years ago·edited

Argued against the strict evidence rule for a year. Then read a supplier thread on another site and stopped arguing.

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u/mod_ambulatoryadmin71 points·2 years ago

this place sells nothing and takes nothing from any supplier

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u/wanjiru_osei56 points·2 years ago

ranked feeds mean the top comment is not the best answer

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u/dexa_twice_yearlybody comp-20 points·2 years ago

the archive-after-a-year policy is deliberate

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u/kasper_cabrera95 points·2 years ago

the ranking formula is published, go and read it

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u/tomas_lundgren92 points·2 years ago

Yes. Nobody here is paid and the disclosure page says so in tedious detail, which is the correct level of tedious.

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u/kenji_demir29 points·2 years ago

Agreed that the top comment is not the best answer. The ranking optimises for early agreement.

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u/mod_ambulatoryadmin71 points·2 years ago

How a rule actually changes here, since people assume it is arbitrary.

Somebody posts a proposal with replacement wording — not a complaint, actual text. It gets argued about, usually for a week or two. If it survives, it goes in with whatever amendments came out of the argument, and the change is announced with the reasoning attached.

The reason wording is required is that it is the only thing that can be evaluated. "The vendor evidence rules are too strict" cannot be adopted, rejected or amended. A proposed sentence can. Several rules on this site started as a comment in a thread like this one, which is the strongest argument for the process.

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u/joaquin_ivaturi53 points·2 years ago

Moderation of individual cases happens in modmail rather than in threads, because a public discussion of one person’s removal is worse for that person than a private one.

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u/nora_lundgren14 points·2 years ago

vendor source pages link storefronts and the link is marked

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u/vitamin_d_void11 points·2 years ago

the disclosure is boring because it has to be

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u/hub_opssite staff20 points·2 years ago

evidence rules are strict here on purpose

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u/draw_up_dizzy44 points·2 years ago

Yes — a proposal with concrete wording gets discussed. A complaint about the rules in general does not.

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u/ismael_varga13 points·2 years ago

This. Modmail first is not bureaucracy; it stops individual cases turning into a public pile-on.

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u/zeynep_duarte19 points·2 years ago

nobody here is paid, including the moderators

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