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c/meta·posted 10 months ago by u/copay_card_cc

[Meta] proposal — a flair for ranking posts

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Putting this to the board: proposal — a flair for ranking posts.

Submissions older than a year are archived: readable, linkable, and closed to new comments. That keeps a three-year-old thread from being reopened with a reply nobody will see in context.

Vendor source pages carry an outbound link to the supplier’s own storefront, marked nofollow and sponsored, disclosed on the page and again on the funding page. Nothing is received for it.

The evidence standard on the vendor boards requires a document, a date or a named service behind any claim about a supplier. It is what makes those threads worth reading years later.

Screenshot none of this. Read the whole thread, including the parts where I am told I am wrong.

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u/emeka_chowdhury77 points·10 months ago·edited

Moderation of individual cases happens in modmail rather than in threads, because a public discussion of one person’s removal is worse for that person than a private one.

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u/copay_card_ccOP55 points·10 months ago

the ranking formula is published, go and read it

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u/copay_card_ccOP28 points·10 months ago

Small fix — archiving happens at a year, not at six months. It is in the published policy.

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u/farid_jansen22 points·10 months ago

removals get explained publicly where the rule allows it

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u/katrin_marchetti41 points·10 months ago

A rule-change proposal needs replacement wording because that is what can be evaluated. Without it there is nothing to compare against the current text.

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u/prior_auth_painappeals34 points·10 months ago

How a rule actually changes here, since people assume it is arbitrary.

Somebody posts a proposal with replacement wording — not a complaint, actual text. It gets argued about, usually for a week or two. If it survives, it goes in with whatever amendments came out of the argument, and the change is announced with the reasoning attached.

The reason wording is required is that it is the only thing that can be evaluated. "The vendor evidence rules are too strict" cannot be adopted, rejected or amended. A proposed sentence can. Several rules on this site started as a comment in a thread like this one, which is the strongest argument for the process.

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[deleted]13 points·10 months ago

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u/bastian_moreau16 points·10 months ago

This. Modmail first is not bureaucracy; it stops individual cases turning into a public pile-on.

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u/marta_dziedzic-34 points·10 months ago

Had a post removed, went to modmail, got a specific explanation and disagreed with it politely. It stayed removed and I understood why.

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u/kenji_vasquez11 points·10 months ago

rule-change proposals need a concrete wording, not a complaint

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u/nora_lundgren12 points·10 months ago

Feed position is a function of early votes and time. That structurally favours agreeable early answers over correct late ones, which is why sorting by controversial occasionally is worth the effort.

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u/hub_opssite staff7 points·10 months ago

The ranking functions are published: the hot ordering combines score magnitude with age, and the controversial ordering weights total volume by the balance between up and down votes. Both are reproducible from the numbers on each submission.

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u/tomas_lundgren4 points·10 months ago

Have you read the published formula, genuinely asking?

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u/hamza_weiss2 points·10 months ago

Right, and the storefront links on source pages are marked and disclosed, which is the honest way to do it.

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u/rasmus_kuipers2 points·10 months ago

nobody here is paid, including the moderators

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u/injection_site_iris1 point·10 months ago

What would the new rule do to the vendor evidence standard?

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u/copay_card_ccOP2 points·10 months ago

Have you taken this to modmail first?

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u/enzo_petrescu4 points·10 months ago

Checked the sponsor disclosure because I assumed it would be vague. It was extremely specific and slightly boring.

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u/enzo_petrescu5 points·10 months ago

Disagree with loosening that. The evidence rule is why a supplier report here means something.

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