unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about lowest effective dose is guesswork
unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about lowest effective dose is guesswork. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments.
Stretched from seven to ten days and then to twelve over about four months. Appetite told me where the limit was before the scale did.
Been at maintenance for 13 months on 1.0mg. Nothing happens. That is the whole report and it took me a while to accept it as success.
Drifted up 2kg over a winter and panicked. It came back off without any change, which is apparently just what weight does.
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best — the order this archive was captured in
None of this is a taper plan. What dose holds for you is a question for somebody with your history in front of them.
Dose reduction and interval extension are different interventions. Halving the dose keeps the rhythm and lowers the level; stretching keeps the level and lowers the frequency, with a lower trough.
Standing reminder that regain after stopping is a documented pharmacological outcome, and posts framing it as a moral failure get edited.
Agreed that a few kilos of drift is ordinary. Weight is not a fixed number even for people who have never taken anything.
What dose are you holding, and for how long now?
Standing reminder that regain after stopping is a documented pharmacological outcome, and posts framing it as a moral failure get edited.
Adding one thing — decide what maintenance looks like before you arrive at it.
Yes. The habits have to outlive the dose or the maintenance phase is just a countdown.
the goal weight you picked at week 1 was a guess
What is the plan if the drift continues for another month?
Standing reminder that regain after stopping is a documented pharmacological outcome, and posts framing it as a moral failure get edited.
This reframing is the most useful thing on the board for anyone approaching this phase.
Small fix — you have described interval stretching and called it a dose reduction. The exposure profiles differ.
Chased the last three kilos with a dose increase and got a fortnight of muscle cramps and no change in the number.
the trials that looked at withdrawal are unambiguous about what follows
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