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c/maintenancephase·posted 2 years ago by u/fabio_kuipers

[Results] 19 weeks on 0.25mg, full numbers, ask me anything boring

Results Cold Box ×8 Well Actually ×3

19 weeks on 0.25mg, full numbers, ask me anything boring, and the part I actually want to talk about is at the bottom.

Numbers, in the order they matter: 19 weeks and 0.25mg.

Maintenance is the phase with the least published guidance and the most individual variation, which is precisely why board consensus here is worth less than usual.

Appetite returning before the scale moves follows from the mechanism: the appetite effect is the proximal one and weight is the lagging integrated outcome.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/draw_up_dizzy195 points·2 years ago

Cosigning on planning it in advance. Deciding what maintenance looks like while still losing is much easier than deciding it in a panic.

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u/still_here_2026MOD117 points·2 years ago

Standing reminder that regain after stopping is a documented pharmacological outcome, and posts framing it as a moral failure get edited.

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u/column_dead_volume-22 points·2 years ago

That is a range, not a trend. Two weigh-ins 8 days apart cannot distinguish them.

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u/fabio_kuipersOP1 point·2 years ago

Correction: that trial measured regain after withdrawal, not failure of the drug during treatment. Very different claim.

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u/oskar_malinowski1 point·2 years ago

Same. Monthly is plenty at this stage and daily weighing made me miserable for no information gain.

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u/fridge_door_no136 points·2 years ago

Been at maintenance for 22 months on 1.0mg. Nothing happens. That is the whole report and it took me a while to accept it as success.

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u/liv_kuipers95 points·2 years ago·edited

Stretched from seven to ten days and then to twelve over about four months. Appetite told me where the limit was before the scale did.

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u/arne_ndiaye71 points·2 years ago

What dose are you holding, and for how long now?

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u/omar_eriksen132 points·2 years ago

Chased the last three kilos with a dose increase and got a fortnight of muscle cramps and no change in the number.

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u/cesar_oyelaran143 points·2 years ago

Withdrawal studies in this class consistently show substantial regain after discontinuation. That is a pharmacological finding about a chronic condition, not a statement about anyone’s discipline.

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u/sena_balogun50 points·2 years ago

the trials that looked at withdrawal are unambiguous about what follows

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u/rafael_krastev109 points·2 years ago

I would not treat a two-kilo range as drift requiring action. That is ordinary weight variation.

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u/copay_card_cc128 points·2 years ago

Dose reduction and interval extension are different interventions. Halving the dose keeps the rhythm and lowers the level; stretching keeps the level and lowers the frequency, with a lower trough.

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u/noor_vermeulen62 points·2 years ago

Dose reduction and interval extension are different interventions.

Agreed — and appetite is the leading indicator. The scale is the lagging one.

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u/nadia_nascimento76 points·2 years ago

This. The withdrawal data is not ambiguous and framing regain as a personal failure is both wrong and cruel.

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u/fatima_asante37 points·2 years ago

This.

Adding one thing — decide what maintenance looks like before you arrive at it.

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u/fridge_door_no19 points·2 years ago

maintenance is where the logistics finally get boring, which is the point

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u/hugo_norgaard15 points·2 years ago

Disagree with chasing the last stretch by going up. You are trading a real side-effect cost for a number you chose arbitrarily.

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u/rasmus_petrescu0 points·2 years ago

Agreed that a few kilos of drift is ordinary. Weight is not a fixed number even for people who have never taken anything.

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u/fabio_kuipers22 points·2 years ago

the lowest effective dose is a real target and nobody talks about it

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u/laila_almeida11 points·2 years ago

Agreed. Lowest effective dose is the actual maintenance question and it gets almost no airtime next to the escalation threads.

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u/draw_up_dizzy14 points·2 years ago·edited

Yes. The habits have to outlive the dose or the maintenance phase is just a countdown.

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u/hub_opssite staff9 points·2 years ago

Push back: that is not a plateau, that is maintenance. You have arrived and you are describing it as a failure.

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u/milos_vestergaard44 points·2 years ago

Right — appetite returns before the scale moves, which is the early signal people miss.

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u/rohan_cardoso14 points·2 years ago

boring is the objective now

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