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c/maintenancephase·submitted 2 years ago by u/hub_ops

lowest effective dose — 2 things I got wrong before I got it right

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The title is the argument: lowest effective dose — 2 things I got wrong before I got it right. Here is the rest of it. Stretched from seven to ten days and then to twelve over about four months. Appetite told me where the limit was before the scale did. Been at maintenance for 17 months on 12.5mg. Nothing happens.…

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u/nils_tulloch120 points·2 years ago

Chased the last three kilos with a dose increase and got a fortnight of reflux and no change in the number.

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u/food_noise_goneMOD48 points·2 years ago

Standing reminder that regain after stopping is a documented pharmacological outcome, and posts framing it as a moral failure get edited.

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u/zaid_eriksen77 points·2 years ago

Small fix — you have described interval stretching and called it a dose reduction. The exposure profiles differ.

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u/mei_serrano28 points·2 years ago

Appetite returning before the scale moves follows from the mechanism: the appetite effect is the proximal one and weight is the lagging integrated outcome.

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u/santiago_lindqvist21 points·2 years ago

Withdrawal studies in this class consistently show substantial regain after discontinuation. That is a pharmacological finding about a chronic condition, not a statement about anyone’s discipline.

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u/rohan_cardoso5 points·2 years ago

Body weight varies by a couple of kilos over days in stable people through fluid, glycogen and gut content. A range is not a trend.

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u/anders_vermeulen4 points·2 years ago

find the dose that holds, then stop optimising

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u/camila_sandvik18 points·2 years ago

Did you decide what maintenance would look like before you got here?

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u/zeynep_mbeki0 points·2 years ago

That reads like a taper schedule and this board cannot hand those out.

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u/neha_falk1 point·2 years ago

Weigh monthly now. Best change I made in the whole run and it cost nothing.

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u/nikhil_lindqvist1 point·2 years ago

Maintenance is the phase with the least published guidance and the most individual variation, which is precisely why board consensus here is worth less than usual.

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u/adnan_sandvik1 point·2 years ago·edited

Maintenance is the phase with the least published guidance and the most individual variation, which is precisely why board consensus here is worth les

nikhil_lindqvist is right that stretching and reducing are different levers. Worth separating in every one of these threads.

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