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c/maintenancephase·posted 2 years ago by u/adnan_sandvik

[Results] 30 weeks on 1.7mg, full numbers, ask me anything boring

Results Clean Column ×6 Cold Box ×2 Long Haul ×2

30 weeks on 1.7mg, full numbers, ask me anything boring, logged the same way every week so the comparison is at least internally fair.

The numbers the title promised, since a headline without them is worthless: 30 weeks and 1.7mg. Everything below is context for those.

Withdrawal studies in this class consistently show substantial regain after discontinuation. That is a pharmacological finding about a chronic condition, not a statement about anyone’s discipline.

Interval stretching changes the exposure profile: with a week-long half-life, moving to ten or twelve days lowers trough concentration more than it lowers average exposure. That is why appetite return is often the first thing noticed.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/hassan_ostergaard-10 points·2 years ago

Body weight varies by a couple of kilos over days in stable people through fluid, glycogen and gut content. A range is not a trend.

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u/copay_card_cc391 points·2 years ago

Maintenance is the phase with the least published guidance and the most individual variation, which is precisely why board consensus here is worth less than usual.

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u/erez_baptista307 points·2 years ago

Weigh monthly now. Best change I made in the whole run and it cost nothing.

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u/nabila_espinoza238 points·2 years ago

Correction: that trial measured regain after withdrawal, not failure of the drug during treatment. Very different claim.

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology71 points·2 years ago

the trials that looked at withdrawal are unambiguous about what follows

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u/constipation_clubside effects82 points·2 years ago

The two levers, described properly, because this board mixes them up constantly.

Reducing the dose lowers average exposure while keeping the weekly rhythm. Stretching the interval keeps the dose but lowers the trough between injections, which — with a week-long half-life — is why people notice appetite returning towards the end of a stretched cycle before they see anything on the scale.

The reported pattern here is stretching in small steps, a week to ten days to twelve, with appetite as the signal rather than the scale. Some people find dose reduction more comfortable. Neither is a schedule anybody here can hand you, and the fact that this phase has the least published guidance is exactly why board consensus deserves less weight than usual.

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u/rohan_cardoso225 points·2 years ago

Push back: that is not a plateau, that is maintenance. You have arrived and you are describing it as a failure.

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u/nhs_waitlist_nUK133 points·2 years ago

The habits from the losing phase are what carry it now. That is not inspirational, it is just what happened.

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u/salma_almeida99 points·2 years ago

Yes — interval stretching and dose reduction are different levers and people use the words interchangeably.

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u/column_dead_volume132 points·2 years ago

None of this is a taper plan. What dose holds for you is a question for somebody with your history in front of them.

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u/teodor_duarte191 points·2 years ago

Two years at maintenance. The logistics are the only remaining work — ordering, storing, remembering.

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u/dario_petrescu79 points·2 years ago

seven days to ten to twelve is the sequence people here describe

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u/ilias_nakamura65 points·2 years ago

I would not treat a two-kilo range as drift requiring action. That is ordinary weight variation.

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u/line_bergstrom51 points·2 years ago

the lowest effective dose is a real target and nobody talks about it

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u/ms_fragmenter51 points·2 years ago

maintenance is a phase, not a finish line

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u/mod_cold_roommod · c/coldchain48 points·2 years ago

Is the goal weight still the one you picked at the start?

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u/hassan_ostergaard34 points·2 years ago

boring is the objective now

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u/adnan_sandvikOP27 points·2 years ago

Chased the last three kilos with a dose increase and got a fortnight of sulphur burps and no change in the number.

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u/neha_falk6 points·2 years ago

monthly weigh-ins are enough at this stage

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