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c/labresults·posted 7 months ago by u/anders_karlsen

the Janoshik question that gets asked weekly, answered properly

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the Janoshik question that gets asked weekly, answered properly. It is the sort of thing everyone half-believes and nobody writes down.

BCH BPC, batch matched the paperwork, Janoshik came back 99.6% against a claimed 99.0%. Paid for it myself, posting it because the log is only worth anything if people do.

Chain of custody is why member-funded testing is worth more than a supplied certificate: the vial tested is the vial that arrived at a member’s door.

Date of analysis anchors the result to a manufacturing period. A two-year-old result is evidence about two years ago and should be read that way.

I will update this if the picture changes rather than quietly leaving it up.

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u/piotr_nascimento46 points·7 months ago

The template is vendor, compound, batch, service, claim, result, and who paid. Every one of those fields exists because a result missing it has been argued about here before.

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u/ravi_sandvik25 points·7 months ago

Inter-lab variance on this assay runs roughly a point either way, driven mostly by gradient and integration. Two results inside that band agree; they do not disagree quietly.

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u/honest_syringe0 points·7 months ago

Inter-lab variance on this assay runs roughly a point either way, driven mostly by gradient and integration.

This is why the template has a batch field. Without it the result is about a vial nobody can identify.

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[deleted]17 points·7 months ago

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u/anders_karlsenOP0 points·7 months ago

Which service, and did you pay for it yourself?

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u/anders_karlsenOP0 points·7 months ago

Do you have the trace, or only the summary?

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u/diego_szabo32 points·7 months ago

How many separate lots does your series cover?

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u/anders_karlsenOP19 points·7 months ago

Split one vial between VendorInvestigate and Medutest. The two numbers were within half a point of each other and I stopped worrying about which lab to trust.

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u/ismael_nwosu10 points·7 months ago

GL Biochem came back 98.3% on a claimed 98.0%, which is agreement not a discrepancy

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u/reship_roulette33 points·7 months ago

On inter-lab disagreement, which generates more heat here than anything else.

Two services running different gradients, integrating differently, at possibly different wavelengths, will not produce identical numbers on the same material. A point either way is ordinary. Half a point is close agreement.

The productive response to a gap that size is to post both results with both methods and let the log accumulate. The unproductive response is to pick the lower number, call it the truth, and open a dispute. Members have done the first for long enough now that the bands in the vendor tables are genuinely informative.

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u/noor_vermeulen-16 points·7 months ago

If the report gives a mass spectrum as well as UV purity, say so. Identity and relative quantity are separate claims and the log tracks both.

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u/reship_roulette1 point·7 months ago

Right, and a point or two between services is ordinary. It is agreement, and every month somebody posts it as a scandal.

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u/emil_marchand1 point·7 months ago

This. The trend across separate lots is the number that tells you about a process rather than a vial.

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u/elise_ramos1 point·7 months ago

Push back: three tests on one lot is one lot. It tells you about that lot and almost nothing about the next one.

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u/aurel_mwangi1 point·7 months ago

Disagree that this is a discrepancy. 98.7% against a claimed 98.5% is inside ordinary inter-lab variance in either direction.

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u/anders_vermeulen18 points·7 months ago

I would not post that as a finding. It is a single result and the template asks you to say so.

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u/mei_cardoso26 points·7 months ago

inter-lab variance runs a point or two, plan your outrage accordingly

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