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c/labresults·posted 1 year ago by u/yara_mensah

Medutest — 8 things I got wrong before I got it right

Janoshik The Quiet One ×1 Slow Clap ×3

Medutest — 8 things I got wrong before I got it right, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board.

What a result posted here is actually worth, and how to make yours worth more.

A single figure with no batch identifier is about a vial nobody can locate. Add the batch and it becomes about a lot. Add the claimed figure from the certificate and it becomes a comparison. Add the service and the date and it becomes reproducible. Say that you paid for it yourself and it becomes independent.

Five extra fields, thirty seconds of typing, and the difference between a comment and a row in the log that will still be useful in three years.

On inter-lab disagreement, which generates more heat here than anything else.

Two services running different gradients, integrating differently, at possibly different wavelengths, will not produce identical numbers on the same material. A point either way is ordinary. Half a point is close agreement.

The productive response to a gap that size is to post both results with both methods and let the log accumulate. The unproductive response is to pick the lower number, call it the truth, and open a dispute. Members have done the first for long enough now that the bands in the vendor tables are genuinely informative.

How to build a series that means something, if you are going to spend money on testing anyway.

Three tests on one lot tells you about your measurement. Three tests on three lots, spread over a year, tells you about a process. The second is the one worth paying for and it costs the same.

Buy small, keep the batch numbers, send one vial per lot, and post each one with the claim next to it. After four or five you have something no individual review can give you: a band, a direction and a date range. That is what the source pages are made of.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/diego_szabo-6 points·1 year ago

Area percent and net peptide content are different measurements and most reports give one. Quote which, or the comparison downstream is meaningless.

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u/tuva_kirchner1 point·1 year ago

The template is vendor, compound, batch, service, claim, result, and who paid. Every one of those fields exists because a result missing it has been argued about here before.

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u/marisol_moreau1 point·1 year ago

The template is vendor, compound, batch, service, claim, result, and who paid.

This is why the template has a batch field. Without it the result is about a vial nobody can identify.

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u/boots_or_bust1 point·1 year ago

Yes — date of analysis, because a result from two years ago describes a different manufacturing month.

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u/ismael_nwosu1 point·1 year ago

Cosigning on saying who paid. It is the whole basis on which this log is worth anything.

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u/piotr_nascimento282 points·1 year ago

if you are going to test, test the thing you actually received

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u/meera_sandvik71 points·1 year ago

results without method are gossip with decimals

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u/yara_mensahOP39 points·1 year ago

Batch number and date of analysis?

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u/jonas_cardoso32 points·1 year ago

say whether you paid for it yourself

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u/crp_curious32 points·1 year ago

net peptide content if the report gives it, and say which you are quoting

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u/anders_vermeulen249 points·1 year ago

A series across separate lots estimates a process. Repeat tests on one lot estimate the measurement. Both are useful and they answer different questions.

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u/yara_mensahOP103 points·1 year ago·edited

What was the claim on the certificate you are comparing against?

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u/gustav_cardoso114 points·1 year ago

A series across separate lots estimates a process.

anders_vermeulen is right that the band matters more than the peak. Consistency across lots is the finding.

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u/elise_ramos64 points·1 year ago

anders_vermeulen is right that the band matters more than the peak.

Disagreeing with this line: that gap is ordinary variance, not a contradiction between the lab and the certificate.

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u/aksel_jansen83 points·1 year ago

date of analysis matters as much as the number

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u/throwaway_44b160 points·1 year ago

inter-lab variance runs a point or two, plan your outrage accordingly

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u/whois_wanda174 points·1 year ago

First result I ever posted here got asked for the batch number and the claim. Fair, and my posts have been better ever since.

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[removed]118 points·1 year ago

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u/ffmi_watcher48 points·1 year ago

the trend across lots is worth more than any single figure

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u/arne_restrepo139 points·1 year ago

Kept every report as a PDF with the batch in the filename. Two years in, it is the most useful folder I own.

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