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c/intlshipping·posted 3 months ago by u/chidi_demir

[Question] New Zealand — has anyone got a straight answer on lane

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New Zealand — has anyone got a straight answer on lane, and I want the answer with the reasoning attached rather than just the conclusion.

Why this board reports by lane and not by supplier.

Two members ordering from the same operation, in the same month, can see completely different transit times because they are on different routes with different carriers and different clearance points. Averaging them produces a supplier-level number that predicts nothing for either of them.

A lane — origin, destination, carrier, month — is the smallest thing that behaves consistently enough to be worth measuring. Once a route has a dozen reports behind it the median is genuinely useful, and that is what the tables on the source pages are built from.

The rigid outer with no rattle in it was the thing that told me most about that supplier, before I had tested anything.

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/protein_first_pnutrition70 points·3 months ago·edited

Four observations is not a distribution. The lane tables here only became predictive once individual routes had a dozen or more reports behind them.

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u/transit_varianceMOD40 points·3 months ago

Tracking number redacted. No exceptions on this one — it identifies both ends of a shipment.

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[removed]27 points·3 months ago

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u/karim_hartmann9 points·3 months ago

the median is more useful than the fastest anybody ever got

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u/mei_serrano20 points·3 months ago·edited

Disagree. That is a customs hold, not a carrier delay, and lumping them together makes the lane table wrong.

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u/wholesome_lurker23 points·3 months ago

customs clearance time is not carrier time and they get conflated

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u/chidi_demirOP31 points·3 months ago

Asked ERP which lines they hold regionally before ordering and got a straight list back. Changed what I ordered and when.

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u/chidi_demirOP13 points·3 months ago

Origin, destination, carrier and month?

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u/arne_fontaine3 points·3 months ago·edited

Origin, destination, carrier and month?

This is why the lane table is organised the way it is. The supplier is not the unit.

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u/chidi_demirOP0 points·3 months ago

What was the packaging like on arrival?

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u/runa_wikstrom1 point·3 months ago

What was the packaging like on arrival?

chidi_demir is right about regional stock. It changes the shape of the distribution, not just the mean.

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics44 points·3 months ago·edited

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time. The lane table separates them for exactly this reason.

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u/marta_trevino49 points·3 months ago

Push back: comparing a July transit with a February one on the same lane is not a comparison.

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u/mariam_cabrera29 points·3 months ago

Split one order across two months on purpose to compare summer and winter. Four days apart, same carrier, same route.

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u/not_my_main_nm10 points·3 months ago

Yes — median rather than best case. The fastest anybody ever got is not a plan.

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u/karim_hartmann29 points·3 months ago

Agreed. Reporting by lane rather than by supplier is what made the tables here actually predictive.

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u/mod_cold_roommod · c/coldchain24 points·3 months ago·edited

Small fix — shipped from the regional warehouse, not from origin, which is why the number looks unusual.

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u/ferran_laurent15 points·3 months ago

regional stock changes everything about transit

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u/honest_syringe196 points·3 months ago

A lane is an origin, a destination, a carrier and a season. Change any one and the distribution changes, which is why supplier-level shipping averages are close to meaningless.

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u/tove_ogunleye0 points·3 months ago

Agreed.

Agreed — and the decomposition matters. Most people are blaming the international leg for a last-mile problem.

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u/milan_chukwu39 points·3 months ago

Posted my first lane report here without the month and got asked for it. Fair, and the table is better for the fussiness.

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u/ice_pack_auditcold chain31 points·3 months ago·edited

Was it shipped from a regional warehouse or from origin?

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u/ireland_drugs_pay24 points·3 months ago

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit. Both belong in the report and they are different columns.

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