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c/glp1uk·posted 2 years ago by u/yusuf_ramos

Germany: pricing, and what it actually costs here

Question Cold Box ×5 The Quiet One ×3

Something I keep coming back to: Germany: pricing, and what it actually costs here.

Supply notices from the regulator describe expected availability at a national level. They do not predict what any individual pharmacy has on the shelf next week.

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own arrangements. An answer that begins with "in England" should say so, and most of the confusion here comes from answers that do not.

Pharmacy pricing on a private prescription is set by the pharmacy. The spread between them in a given month is routinely substantial, which is why a tracker built from member reports is more useful than any headline.

Not medical advice, obviously, and nothing here is approved for human use. One person with a spreadsheet.

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u/lina_bruun-5 points·2 years ago

A private prescription is an independent route: it does not affect NHS list position, and it is not a step in the same pathway.

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u/sten_palacios1 point·2 years ago

Not convinced — the US threads are a different system entirely and importing their advice here does real harm.

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u/jonas_cardoso1 point·2 years ago

What did the referral letter actually say?

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u/rasmus_kimani1 point·2 years ago

Not convinced — the US threads are a different system entirely and importing their advice here does real harm.

sten_palacios is right that the two routes are separate. A private prescription does not move you up the list.

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u/lane_watcherMOD104 points·2 years ago

Referral link removed and the post left up. No links of any kind here, and that rule is not negotiable.

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u/camila_marchand24 points·2 years ago

an online consultation that asks you nothing is not a consultation

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u/rina_nascimento0 points·2 years ago

Small fix — that is the Scottish pathway. The post is asking about England and the answer is different.

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u/zaid_balogun85 points·2 years ago

That is Scotland’s arrangement and the post is asking about England.

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u/yusuf_ramosOP33 points·2 years ago

Four pharmacies, four prices, same product, same month. The spread was larger than I expected and none of them were the headline offer.

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u/zaid_balogun9 points·2 years ago

BMI thresholds vary by ICB and by year

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u/clara_danquah73 points·2 years ago

In England, specialist weight management services are commissioned locally, so eligibility criteria and waiting times differ by ICB. There is no single national threshold to quote.

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u/adaeze_krastev57 points·2 years ago

the ICB decides the threshold and they are not the same across England

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u/clara_danquah0 points·2 years ago

the ICB decides the threshold and they are not the same across England

Adding the practical bit — ask what happens at discharge before you start, not after.

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u/vikram_mbeki34 points·2 years ago·edited

In England, specialist weight management services are commissioned locally, so eligibility criteria and waiting times differ by ICB.

Disagreeing with this line: that is the arrangement in one nation and the question is about another.

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u/ahmed_iyer0 points·2 years ago

Discharge from a specialist service at goal is a normal end point of that pathway. Whether prescribing continues in primary care afterwards is a local decision and is worth asking about at the start rather than at the end.

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u/coring_the_stopper1 point·2 years ago

Agreed on keeping letters. Dates are what make an appeal or a re-referral possible.

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u/dilara_weiss1 point·2 years ago

Correction: that threshold is your ICB’s, not a national one. They differ and they change by year.

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u/bence_ibarra1 point·2 years ago

This. The monthly pricing tracker is the most useful thing on this board and it works because nobody is allowed to link anything.

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u/laila_wojcik1 point·2 years ago

the Irish scheme cap is the single most useful fact in this board

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u/emil_wojcik29 points·2 years ago

Right, and reading the actual supply notice rather than the coverage of it saves a fortnight of speculation.

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u/marit_coelho17 points·2 years ago

Disagree. That is the pathway in one ICB and it does not generalise even to the next one over.

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u/ahmed_iyer6 points·2 years ago

GP said no and specialist said yes is a very common sequence

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