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c/glp1science·submitted 1 months ago by u/signe_boateng

does incretin actually matter or is it forum lore at this point

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The title is the whole question — does incretin actually matter or is it forum lore at this point — but here is why I am asking. Went looking for human data on a mechanism everybody here asserts. Found preclinical work and one small study. That was clarifying. Tried to build a mental model from mechanism alone and…

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u/elodie_grimaldi143 points·1 months ago

Does the effect persist with continued dosing or does tolerance develop?

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u/titration_marshalmod · c/semaglutide40 points·1 months ago

Does the effect persist with continued dosing or does tolerance develop?

Adding the caveat the paper itself makes in its limitations section, which is stronger than anything in this thread.

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u/signe_boatengOP18 points·1 months ago

Is that from a human study or a preclinical model?

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u/enzo_petrescu64 points·1 months ago

Yes. The discussion section is where the authors say what they actually think, and almost nobody here reads it.

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u/viktor_girard21 points·1 months ago

Tolerance to the gastric effect develops with continued exposure while the appetite effect largely persists. That single fact explains most of the "it settles but it still works" pattern the side-effect board reports.

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u/gustav_vermeulen5 points·1 months ago

Was completely wrong about the gastric emptying story in a thread here two years ago. Someone corrected me with a citation and I have not made that mistake since.

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u/signe_boatengOP4 points·1 months ago

Correcting my own comment: I attributed that to the GIP arm and the paper attributes it to the GLP-1 arm.

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u/neha_krastev1 point·1 months ago

GLP-1 receptor agonism acts both peripherally — insulin secretion in a glucose-dependent way, slowed gastric emptying — and centrally, on appetite regulation. The central component is the better explanation for sustained intake reduction.

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u/aksel_palacios75 points·1 months ago

Agreed that receptor distribution is the key to the side-effect map. It is not a mystery, it is anatomy.

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u/lina_ndiaye-2 points·1 months ago

Asked a question here that I thought was stupid and got three papers back. Best thread I have been in on this site.

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u/signe_boatengOP1 point·1 months ago

Is there any human data on that mechanism yet?

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u/analog_alphabet35 points·1 months ago

a mechanism you can state is not a mechanism you have demonstrated

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u/trialwatch_theoMOD54 points·1 months ago

Retitled to distinguish preclinical from clinical, which the original ran together.

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