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c/glp1canada·posted 1 year ago by u/anya_antonsen

the Canada thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down

Pricing Clean Column ×2

The title is the argument: the Canada thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down. Here is the rest of it.

National regulatory approval establishes that a product may be sold. Whether any plan pays for it is a separate decision, and public drug plans are administered provincially.

Cash pricing, which people skip because they assume coverage is the only route.

Prices at the counter vary between pharmacies, sometimes substantially, in the same city. Members here have found spreads worth a real amount per month by ringing four places and asking for the cash price of a specific presentation.

That does not make coverage unimportant. It does mean that while an authorization is in process — which can take weeks — knowing the actual cash spread is worth half an hour of phone calls. Post what you find with the province and the month; the comparison threads here work for exactly the same reason the UK pricing tracker does.

How to write a special authorization request that gets approved.

Get the published criteria for your province. Answer them explicitly, in their own terms, in the same order. Attach what has been documented — what was tried, at what dose, for how long, with what outcome — as dates rather than narrative. Where a criterion cannot be met, have the prescriber say why in the criterion’s own language rather than around it.

Members here who have done this describe a much better hit rate than those who submitted a clinical letter that did not engage with the form. It is an administrative exercise, and treating it as one is the whole trick. None of which is advice — it is what the threads report.

Ask me anything specific. Anything general I will probably get wrong.

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u/quiet_reader_99-22 points·1 year ago

The three separate questions people ask here as though they were one.

Is it approved for sale — a national regulatory question with one answer. Is it covered — a provincial or private-plan question with many answers. Can I actually get this quantity dispensed — a quantity-limit question that is separate from coverage and stops as many people.

Say which of the three you are asking and name your province and plan type. Threads that do this get answered in two replies; threads that do not generate a page of people talking past each other, all of them correct about somewhere else.

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u/erez_baptista1 point·1 year ago

say the province or the answers will be wrong

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u/enzo_ferrari1 point·1 year ago·edited

Same view — private and provincial plans are genuinely different processes with different appeal routes.

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u/kian_balogun1 point·1 year ago

Careful, that criterion was updated at renewal and the version you are quoting is superseded.

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u/canada_coverageMOD1 point·1 year ago

Pharmacy staff name removed. The pharmacy can stay in a pricing post.

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u/samir_falk12 points·1 year ago

Employer-sponsored plans have their own criteria and appeal processes, independent of the provincial formulary. Which one applies determines everything about the route.

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u/fasting_insulin_f7 points·1 year ago

Employer-sponsored plans have their own criteria and appeal processes, independent of the provincial formulary.

Adding the fastest step — ask the pharmacist. They can usually check in minutes.

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u/enzo_ferrari2 points·1 year ago

the criteria change at plan renewal and nobody announces it

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u/neha_erdogan1 point·1 year ago

Nothing here is medical or legal advice. The pharmacist and the prescriber are the people who can act, and both are faster than a forum.

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u/anya_antonsen6 points·1 year ago

Quantity limits restrict how much may be dispensed in a period even where coverage exists. They are a distinct barrier and require a distinct request.

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u/injection_site_iris4 points·1 year ago

Kept every form and reference number. When they had no record of a submission, I did.

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u/ayesha_radich5 points·1 year ago

Formulary criteria are revised, and plan renewal is a natural point at which a previously refused request may succeed without anything about the applicant changing.

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