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c/darkspot·posted 1 year ago by u/appeal_letter_al

[Meta] proposal — a flair for failure posts

Discussion Cold Box ×9

proposal — a flair for failure posts — with the counter-argument included, because I find it fairly persuasive.

Lost money to a shop that had nothing verifiable on file anywhere. Posting so that somebody searching that name finds this.

Went up too fast because the scale had stalled and I was impatient. Got fatigue I did not need and a data point I could not interpret.

Accused the wrong party publicly and it was my storage. Correcting it here was the most uncomfortable post I have made and the right one.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/reta_and_regretMOD134 points·1 year ago

Name removed. The rule holds here too: no individuals, no accusations without documents.

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[removed]60 points·1 year ago

[removed by moderator]

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u/ismael_chukwu74 points·1 year ago

I would not generalise from one bad month to a rule. The rest of your process sounds fine.

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u/sleep_apnea_sam99 points·1 year ago

The pattern in the money-loss posts, since there is one.

Almost none of them involve a documented supplier with an independent testing record. They involve an unfamiliar shop, a price that seemed good, a decision made in a hurry, and no small first order.

The procedural fix is the one this site keeps repeating: buy small from anybody new, ask for a batch-specific document before paying, test what arrives, and only then commit. It is boring, it costs a small order, and it would have prevented most of what is written on this board. Where a name has nothing verifiable on file, that is a statement about the evidence available rather than about anyone’s conduct — and keeping that distinction is why these reports stay useful.

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u/marit_laurent32 points·1 year ago

Small correction — the shop in that story has no independent testing on file at all, which is different from having a bad record.

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u/fabio_lehtinen52 points·1 year ago

coming back to say you were wrong takes more than being right did

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u/fridge_door_no-17 points·1 year ago

the regret is usually about pace, not about the decision

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u/nora_oyelaran1 point·1 year ago

Right, and stopping for money reasons is not a failure of anything. It is a budget.

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u/appeal_letter_alOP1 point·1 year ago

Right, and stopping for money reasons is not a failure of anything.

nora_oyelaran is right that it was procedural. The procedure was not written down anywhere for you to follow.

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u/nadia_nascimento39 points·1 year ago

Contemporaneous notes matter most in exactly the situations where people are least inclined to write them. Memory reorganises a bad fortnight into a tidier story with a clearer villain.

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u/step_count_stan28 points·1 year ago

Chased the scale instead of the measurements for a year and made myself miserable for no additional progress.

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u/milos_vestergaard20 points·1 year ago

Push back: you did not lose that money by being stupid. You lost it to a shop with nothing verifiable on file, which is a different thing.

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u/enzo_danquah16 points·1 year ago

Where a supplier has no independent testing on file, that is a statement about the evidence and not about their conduct. Saying it the second way is how this board would stop being useful.

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u/slow_logbook11 points·1 year ago

Escalating faster than the schedule allows is the most frequently described regret on the site, and the mechanism is straightforward: tolerance is the limiting factor and it does not care about impatience.

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u/fabio_kuipers4 points·1 year ago

buy small first is the lesson that keeps being learned expensively

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u/rasmus_kimani1 point·1 year ago

money lost to a shop with nothing on file is the recurring story

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u/tomas_lokken10 points·1 year ago

Fridge died in a heatwave and I lost three months of material. There was no clever lesson; I just had not thought about it.

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