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c/cryptopay·posted 1 year ago by u/emil_marchand

why does nobody talk about chargeback

Question Clean Column ×9

Question in the title, detail here: why does nobody talk about chargeback.

Pasted rather than typed the address, then checked the first and last six characters. Habit now.

The sequence that makes this boring, which is the goal.

Ask which networks are accepted before you order. Pick the one with a sensible fee at that hour. Paste the address rather than typing it and verify the first and last several characters. Check whether the chain requires a memo. Send a test amount if the total is large. Wait for confirmations before treating anything as done. Save the transaction hash with the order reference.

Seven steps, most of them seconds long, and between them they eliminate every failure mode that gets posted on this board.

Sent to the right address on the wrong chain years ago. Nothing to be done. That is the lesson I paid for.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/chain_confirm_cMOD53 points·1 year ago

Left up. It has a hash, a chain and a timeline, which is what a payment report needs.

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u/discount_math_dm-20 points·1 year ago

Small fix — that is the network fee, not a supplier charge. The distinction matters for the complaint you are making.

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u/sigrid_kaufmann1 point·1 year ago

screenshot the transaction hash, not the wallet balance

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u/vendorinvestigate_vic1 point·1 year ago

Not convinced. That fee is the network fee at that hour, and it has nothing to do with the supplier.

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u/bruno_dumitru1 point·1 year ago

A token symbol identifies an asset, not a network. The same symbol commonly exists on several chains with incompatible address formats, and sending across that boundary is generally unrecoverable.

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u/escrow_evangelist32 points·1 year ago

Rate quotes expire because the underlying rate moves. A short expiry is ordinary; urgency about your decision is a separate signal and should be read separately.

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u/curious_panel_only37 points·1 year ago

What is and is not the supplier’s fault, since this board generates unfair complaints.

Not theirs: the network fee, chain congestion, confirmation time, the rate moving between quote and send, and a payment sent on the wrong chain. Theirs: which networks they accept, how quickly they credit a confirmed payment, and whether the address they gave you was correct and communicated clearly.

Keeping those columns separate makes the reports here far more useful. A thread titled "supplier took my payment" that turns out to describe forty minutes of unconfirmed transaction helps nobody and follows people around for years.

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u/escrow_evangelist23 points·1 year ago

ask which networks they actually accept before you order

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[deleted]10 points·1 year ago

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u/noor_hovland14 points·1 year ago

Right, and confirmations are the status. "Sent" means nothing until the chain agrees.

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u/chidi_vermeulen20 points·1 year ago

escrow arrangements are rare and worth asking about

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u/karim_hartmann10 points·1 year ago

escrow arrangements are rare and worth asking about

Disagreeing here: that is a network fee at a busy hour and it is not the supplier’s doing.

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u/search_before_post13 points·1 year ago

Push back: an unconfirmed transaction is not a missing payment. Wait for confirmations before escalating.

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u/vikram_mbeki5 points·1 year ago

nobody legitimate needs the payment in the next ten minutes

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u/lurker_for_years3 points·1 year ago·edited

Memo requirements are chain-specific. The chain you are describing does not use one.

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u/vendorinvestigate_vic26 points·1 year ago

Confirmations are the count of blocks built on top of the one containing your transaction. Until there are some, the transaction is not settled in any meaningful sense.

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u/stablecoin_steve21 points·1 year ago

The one mistake that cannot be undone, and why it keeps happening.

The same token symbol exists on multiple chains. The wallet interface shows you the symbol prominently and the network in small type. Sending on the wrong chain to an address that looks perfectly valid usually means the funds are unrecoverable by either party.

The protection is procedural rather than technical: confirm the network in writing with the recipient before sending, verify the address format matches that network, and send a small test first. None of that requires understanding the chain — it requires treating the network field as the most important thing on the screen, which the interface design does not encourage.

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