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c/cryptopay·posted 1 year ago by u/lipid_panel_larry

[Discussion] the chargeback advice in here is 3 years out of date

Discussion Sourced ×9 Receipts ×2 Slow Clap ×1

the chargeback advice in here is 3 years out of date. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments.

Pulling the figures out of the title: 3 years. All of it is written down as it happened rather than reconstructed.

Sent a test amount first on a large order. Cost me a fraction of a percent and I have done it every time since.

Rate quotes expire because the underlying rate moves. A short expiry is ordinary; urgency about your decision is a separate signal and should be read separately.

Screenshot none of this. Read the whole thread, including the parts where I am told I am wrong.

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u/discount_math_dm205 points·1 year ago

The transaction hash is the canonical receipt: it is public, verifiable by either party, and it is what a support query should quote.

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u/lipid_panel_larryOPbloodwork-21 points·1 year ago

Memo requirements are chain-specific. The chain you are describing does not use one.

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u/ledger_modmod · vetting156 points·1 year ago

The sequence that makes this boring, which is the goal.

Ask which networks are accepted before you order. Pick the one with a sensible fee at that hour. Paste the address rather than typing it and verify the first and last several characters. Check whether the chain requires a memo. Send a test amount if the total is large. Wait for confirmations before treating anything as done. Save the transaction hash with the order reference.

Seven steps, most of them seconds long, and between them they eliminate every failure mode that gets posted on this board.

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u/aussie_pbs_watchAU97 points·1 year ago

Did you send a test amount first?

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u/andres_dahlberg105 points·1 year ago

quote expiry is a real thing, not a pressure tactic

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u/karim_hartmann18 points·1 year ago

Sent to the right address on the wrong chain years ago. Nothing to be done. That is the lesson I paid for.

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u/isabela_guerrero21 points·1 year ago

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount moves.

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u/zeynep_zielinski17 points·1 year ago

network and address, checked twice, before anything else

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u/greta_nilsen32 points·1 year ago

screenshot the transaction hash, not the wallet balance

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u/neha_erdogan24 points·1 year ago

Some chains require a memo or destination tag to route funds to the right account. Omitting it on those chains is one of the more common ways payments go astray.

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u/nadia_kjaer15 points·1 year ago·edited

Some chains require a memo or destination tag to route funds to the right account.

Agreed — and the hash is the receipt. Nothing else is.

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u/solene_ilunga20 points·1 year ago

Which networks did they list as accepted?

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u/cesar_teixeira37 points·1 year ago

Pasted rather than typed the address, then checked the first and last six characters. Habit now.

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u/aussie_pbs_watchAU74 points·1 year ago

Keep every transaction hash in a note file with the order reference. It has resolved two queries instantly.

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u/cesar_teixeira22 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on keeping the hash. It is the only receipt in existence and people screenshot their balance instead.

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u/ravi_bergstrom36 points·1 year ago

Confirmations are the count of blocks built on top of the one containing your transaction. Until there are some, the transaction is not settled in any meaningful sense.

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u/leila_silva10 points·1 year ago

Network fees are set by chain congestion at the time of sending. They are paid to the network, not to the recipient, and they vary by hour as well as by chain.

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u/bastian_ekstrom43 points·1 year ago

A token symbol identifies an asset, not a network. The same symbol commonly exists on several chains with incompatible address formats, and sending across that boundary is generally unrecoverable.

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics18 points·1 year ago

Do you have the transaction hash?

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u/santiago_marchetti7 points·1 year ago

This. A test transaction on a large order costs a fraction of the fee and removes the whole class of risk.

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u/vendorinvestigate_vic4 points·1 year ago

Was there a memo or tag requirement on that chain?

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u/anya_antonsen6 points·1 year ago

ask which networks they actually accept before you order

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u/the_poster_in_question_202611 points·1 year ago

Which network, exactly?

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u/lane_map_larrylogistics5 points·1 year ago

Yes — the same token symbol on two chains catches people constantly and it is unrecoverable.

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