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c/coa·posted 2 months ago by u/coa_janitor

the COA thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down

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the COA thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments.

My first certificate had a compound name, a percentage and a logo. I thought that was normal. It is not, and now I know what to ask for.

Asked for the storage condition behind the stability statement. Got it in a sentence. It is a two-line email and almost nobody sends it.

Started keeping a folder of every certificate I have been sent. The ones that itemise impurities are a small group and they are mostly the same suppliers.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/gallbladder_gary-10 points·2 months ago

The PDF creation date being later than the analysis date is usually a re-issue or a re-export. It is worth one question and it is not evidence of anything on its own.

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u/gastric_emptying_g106 points·2 months ago

LC-MS gives you identity; UV purity gives you a relative quantity. A document with the first and not the second, or the reverse, is answering half the question.

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u/tove_ogunleye87 points·2 months ago

batch number, date of analysis, method, individual impurities — that is the minimum set

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u/coa_janitorOPmod · c/coa37 points·2 months ago

The document I was worried about turned out to be a re-issue with a later creation date. Asked, got the original, entirely ordinary.

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u/isabela_nilsen22 points·2 months ago

Did you ask for the batch-specific document, or is this the catalogue one?

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u/dead_space_doug5 points·2 months ago

Spent four months confusing area% and mass% in every post I made here. One explainer thread and it clicked permanently.

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u/yusuf_nakamura4 points·2 months ago

Net peptide content is the fraction of the powder that is actually peptide once counterion, water and residual solvent are accounted for. A 99% pure acetate salt can still be about 85% peptide by mass.

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u/coa_janitorMOD79 points·2 months ago

Your name and address edited out of the screenshot above. The batch details are untouched and should stay.

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u/anecdata_annie18 points·2 months ago

post the whole document, not the headline number

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u/receptor_bias_rick26 points·2 months ago

the related substances line is where the story is

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u/hassan_chowdhury11 points·2 months ago

Cosigning. The batch identifier is load-bearing, and a certificate that cannot be tied to the vial in your hand is not about your vial.

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u/coa_janitorOPmod · c/coa92 points·2 months ago

Water content 3.8%, acetate 6.2%, purity 99%, net peptide about 90% of label weight. All four numbers honest, and I had to read it twice.

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u/ahmed_rasmussen55 points·2 months ago

Related substances itemised individually is a much stronger document than a single total, because it tells you the shape of the impurity profile rather than its size.

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u/teodor_lokken40 points·2 months ago

Sent one vial to PeptideMeter and VendorInvestigate. 99.4% and a claimed 99.0%. Cost me more than the vial and I would do it again.

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u/meera_sandvik38 points·2 months ago

Same view. GL Biochem prints the column and the gradient, which means somebody could actually reproduce the run.

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u/coa_janitorOPmod · c/coa28 points·2 months ago

Same view.

This is the sentence to take away. The rest of the thread is footnotes to it.

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How to read a certificate of analysis and what it does and does not tell you. Area% versus mass%, identity versus quantity, water content, related substances, acetate counterions, and the difference between a vendor-supplied COA and an independent test on the vial you actually received.

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