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c/coa·posted 1 year ago by u/dario_vermeulen

[Vendor] JEEP vs WXT on the same compound, same month — both cleared 98.5%

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Posting this because the title is the whole finding — JEEP vs WXT on the same compound, same month — both cleared 98.5% — and a number without its method is a rumour.

The relevant figures are 98.5%, and they come from the same log I have kept the whole time.

Area percent is the peak area of your compound over the total integrated area, at one wavelength, on one gradient. It is a relative measure of what the detector saw, not a mass fraction of the vial.

Net peptide content is the fraction of the powder that is actually peptide once counterion, water and residual solvent are accounted for. A 99% pure acetate salt can still be about 85% peptide by mass.

I will update this if the picture changes rather than quietly leaving it up.

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u/dario_boateng223 points·1 year ago

Related substances itemised individually is a much stronger document than a single total, because it tells you the shape of the impurity profile rather than its size.

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u/tove_ogunleye68 points·1 year ago

chromatogram or it did not happen

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u/nadia_fonseca103 points·1 year ago

Are the related substances itemised or is it a single total?

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u/aleksi_eriksen85 points·1 year ago·edited

Ask what the stability statement was written against — temperature, light, and whether it was the lyophilised powder or the reconstituted solution. Those are three different claims.

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u/kavya_verhoeven74 points·1 year ago

Is water content on the document? It changes your concentration arithmetic.

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u/dario_vermeulenOP41 points·1 year ago

Small fix — 214nm, not 280nm. It matters here because the impurity you are asking about barely absorbs at the longer wavelength.

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u/yara_antonsen24 points·1 year ago

Correction: that is net peptide content, not purity. Different number, different meaning, and the document says so if you read the row label.

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u/dario_vermeulenOP18 points·1 year ago

Did you get the chromatogram or only the summary line?

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u/karma_irrelevant38 points·1 year ago

LC-MS gives you identity; UV purity gives you a relative quantity. A document with the first and not the second, or the reverse, is answering half the question.

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u/reflux_report10 points·1 year ago

UV at 214nm sees the peptide bond and picks up almost everything; at 280nm you are looking at aromatics only. Which wavelength the number came from is part of the number.

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u/alcohol_aversion2 points·1 year ago

Disagree that a lower number is automatically worse. A conservative claim that survives testing is worth more than an optimistic one that does not.

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u/karma_irrelevant1 point·1 year ago

The PDF creation date being later than the analysis date is usually a re-issue or a re-export. It is worth one question and it is not evidence of anything on its own.

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u/chidi_demir1 point·1 year ago

The PDF creation date being later than the analysis date is usually a re-issue or a re-export.

This is the sentence to take away. The rest of the thread is footnotes to it.

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