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c/coa·posted 1 year ago by u/valeria_girard

three years of COA threads, summarised so you do not have to read them

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three years of COA threads, summarised so you do not have to read them. It is the sort of thing everyone half-believes and nobody writes down.

Asked GL Biochem for the batch-specific certificate and had the full document — batch, date, method line naming the column — inside six hours. That is now my baseline for everybody.

Sent one vial to Medutest and PeptideMeter. 98.8% and a claimed 98.0%. Cost me more than the vial and I would do it again.

Why the same vial can honestly produce three different numbers.

Purity by area percent is relative to what the detector saw on one gradient at one wavelength. Net peptide content subtracts counterion, water and residual solvent. Mass of peptide per vial is net content times fill weight, and fill weight has its own tolerance.

So a document reading 99% purity, 6% acetate and 4% water is describing a vial that is about 90% peptide by mass, and every one of those numbers is honest. The mistake is treating the headline figure as the answer to "how much peptide did I get".

Corrections welcome, especially the pedantic ones. Pedantry is how this board earns its reputation.

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u/katrin_girard32 points·1 year ago·edited

Related substances itemised individually is a much stronger document than a single total, because it tells you the shape of the impurity profile rather than its size.

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u/valeria_girardOP22 points·1 year ago

Asked for the storage condition behind the stability statement. Got it in a sentence. It is a two-line email and almost nobody sends it.

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[removed]9 points·1 year ago

[removed by moderator]

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u/receptor_bias_rick25 points·1 year ago

Batch number and date of analysis, are both on there?

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u/amira_dumitru7 points·1 year ago

That is not what the method line says. It names the technique; it does not certify the operator.

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u/coa_collectorarchivist18 points·1 year ago

net peptide content and purity are two different numbers on the same vial

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u/nikhil_lindqvist14 points·1 year ago

ask for the storage condition the stability statement was written against

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u/purity_pedantanalytical16 points·1 year ago

Cosigning. The batch identifier is load-bearing, and a certificate that cannot be tied to the vial in your hand is not about your vial.

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u/coa_janitorMOD10 points·1 year ago

Reminder: a question about a document is not an accusation about a supplier, and posts that blur the two get retitled.

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u/cesar_ivaturi7 points·1 year ago

Small fix — 214nm, not 280nm. It matters here because the impurity you are asking about barely absorbs at the longer wavelength.

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u/dead_space_doug4 points·1 year ago·edited

Agreed on asking for the storage condition. It is one line and it changes how you read the entire stability claim.

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u/tomas_lehtinen13 points·1 year ago

Yes. The structure of the document matters at least as much as the number printed on it.

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u/liv_nkemelu11 points·1 year ago

HPLC-UV and LC-MS answer different questions

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