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c/coa·posted 1 year ago by u/aleksi_eriksen

purity — 9 things I got wrong before I got it right

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Thinking out loud about this: purity — 9 things I got wrong before I got it right.

How to ask for a batch record without it turning into a negotiation.

One email, three requests: the batch-specific certificate for lot X, the method line behind it, and the storage condition the stability statement was written against. No preamble, no explanation of why you want it.

What comes back is the signal. A full document with the column and gradient printed on it, inside a day, tells you there is a real quality system behind the operation. That is the test I run before I order from anyone new, and it costs nothing.

Area percent is the peak area of your compound over the total integrated area, at one wavelength, on one gradient. It is a relative measure of what the detector saw, not a mass fraction of the vial.

Net peptide content is the fraction of the powder that is actually peptide once counterion, water and residual solvent are accounted for. A 99% pure acetate salt can still be about 85% peptide by mass.

Please do not ask me what dose you should be on. I genuinely do not know and neither does anyone else here.

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u/spreadsheet_gremlindata-30 points·1 year ago

LC-MS gives you identity; UV purity gives you a relative quantity. A document with the first and not the second, or the reverse, is answering half the question.

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u/emeka_beaulieu1 point·1 year ago

LC-MS gives you identity; UV purity gives you a relative quantity.

Adding the bit that always gets missed: the lot on the vial has to match the lot on the page, or none of this applies to your material.

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u/santiago_szabo1 point·1 year ago

Small fix — 214nm, not 280nm. It matters here because the impurity you are asking about barely absorbs at the longer wavelength.

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u/aurel_boateng1 point·1 year ago

redact your own name, never the batch details

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u/liv_nkemelu0 points·1 year ago

Related substances itemised individually is a much stronger document than a single total, because it tells you the shape of the impurity profile rather than its size.

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u/soren_nkemelu1 point·1 year ago

batch number, date of analysis, method, individual impurities — that is the minimum set

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u/katrin_girard1 point·1 year ago

UV at 214nm sees the peptide bond and picks up almost everything; at 280nm you are looking at aromatics only. Which wavelength the number came from is part of the number.

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u/nadia_kjaer1 point·1 year ago

Related substances itemised individually is a much stronger document than a single total, because it tells you the shape of the impurity profile rathe

Disagree on this specific point. Two honest labs can resolve that impurity differently and report different numbers.

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u/coa_janitorMOD288 points·1 year ago

Your name and address edited out of the screenshot above. The batch details are untouched and should stay.

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u/blunt_coldbox2969 points·1 year ago

ask for the storage condition the stability statement was written against

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u/freya_baptista40 points·1 year ago

Did you get the chromatogram or only the summary line?

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u/soren_nkemelu19 points·1 year ago·edited

Did you get the chromatogram or only the summary line?

freya_baptista has the distinction right — one is a fraction of the detector signal, the other is a fraction of the mass.

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u/ignacio_silva48 points·1 year ago

My first certificate had a compound name, a percentage and a logo. I thought that was normal. It is not, and now I know what to ask for.

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u/purity_pedantanalytical40 points·1 year ago·edited

ask for the storage condition the stability statement was written against

This is the sentence to take away. The rest of the thread is footnotes to it.

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u/sunday_shot_sal21 points·1 year ago

the related substances line is where the story is

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u/aleksi_eriksenOP15 points·1 year ago

Correction: that is net peptide content, not purity. Different number, different meaning, and the document says so if you read the row label.

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u/aleksi_eriksenOP120 points·1 year ago

Area percent or net peptide content? They answer different questions.

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u/hassan_chowdhury175 points·1 year ago

Your name and address edited out of the screenshot above.

Agreed, and the practical version is: ask for the itemised table. If it exists, you get it.

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u/andres_restrepo339 points·1 year ago

Ask what the stability statement was written against — temperature, light, and whether it was the lyophilised powder or the reconstituted solution. Those are three different claims.

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u/blunt_coldbox29202 points·1 year ago

Careful — "the metadata looks odd" is a reason to ask a question, not a conclusion. Re-issues are ordinary.

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u/camila_lindqvist156 points·1 year ago

That is the catalogue certificate rather than the batch-specific one. Same layout, completely different status.

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u/ahmed_rasmussen84 points·1 year ago·edited

the counterion is part of the mass you paid for

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u/cato_achebe0 points·1 year ago

That is not what the method line says. It names the technique; it does not certify the operator.

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u/emeka_beaulieu65 points·1 year ago

Did you ask for the batch-specific document, or is this the catalogue one?

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u/zeynep_zielinski56 points·12 months ago

The document I was worried about turned out to be a re-issue with a later creation date. Asked, got the original, entirely ordinary.

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u/hugo_bergstrom31 points·1 year ago

Batch number and date of analysis, are both on there?

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u/first_hundred9 points·1 year ago

Same view. SWB prints the column and the gradient, which means somebody could actually reproduce the run.

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u/chidi_demir6 points·1 year ago·edited

axis labels included, always

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u/yara_antonsen7 points·12 months ago

HPLC-UV and LC-MS answer different questions

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